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HISTOIRE CACHE DU PORTUGAL
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Re : HISTOIRE CACHE DU PORTUGAL -
05/02/2010, 15h46
On April 8, 2009, Kernow announced that it has applied to the Portuguese Ministry of Economy and Innovation for the rights to explore for Geothermal resources located in the area of Chaves in Northern Portugal. The application will be reviewed by the Ministry and the Direccao-Geral de Energia e Geologia (”DGEG”) and, if successful, Kernow will be granted the right to explore for Geothermal Resources over an area of approximately 200.90 square kilometres. The location was selected by Kernow as it is known to host several hot springs and contains a deep seated regional fault running from the south west to the north east of the property. The fault known as the Regua Varim fault separates two granitic intrusions of Hercynian age to the east and west.
Kernow signed a Letter of Intent with Green Bull on March 9, 2009. The LOI granted Green Bull the right to enter into a 50/50 joint venture with Kernow to develop the Chaves area under application for geothermal resources after paying the first EUR 100,000 (Approximately $160,000) of exploration expenditures on the property. The transaction has been conditionally accepted by the Exchange but is subject to final review by the Exchange.
licences des eaux du portugal !
demain n'importe quelle société mafieuse, ou de gens enemies du portugal
peuvent acheter cette société et etre propriété de ce qui est a nous,
c'est a dire au pays , ou la richesse du pays et de chaque portugais !
et si elle achete, elle peut disposer comme elle veux des biens qui nous appartiennent !
et avec ces contrats ils ont fait en sorte qu'ils ne nous appartiennent plus !
cette entreprise pourras vendre aux chinois ou a l'arabie saudite notre eau
et notre peuple n'aura plus que ses yeux pour pleurer en cas de crise d'eau !
ce type de bien strategique pour notre nation, et qui finalement appartien a tous les portugais
devrait etre interdit a la vente !
http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...YB-1085147.htm
KERNOW PROVIDES UPDATE RELATIVE TO THE APPLICATION FOR GEOTHERMAL LICENCE, CHAVES, NORTHERN PORTUGAL
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Kernow Geothermal Application Area
Background of Geothermal Resources in Portugal
The geology of Portugal is permissive for several different types of geothermal resources. On the mainland, where intrusive and crystalline rocks cover over 60% of the area, thermal waters are related with active faulting. At least twenty-seven hot springs are noted and have discharge temperatures of between 25ºC and 75ºC. The majority of these hot springs are located in the central and northern part of the country and as mentioned occur along major structural breaks. The waters are mostly used for balneotherapy.
In the sedimentary basins in the south of the country, particularly in the Lisbon area, where population densities are higher and heat consumers are located, Lower Cretaceous reservoirs with temperatures up to 50ºC were tapped for small multipurpose geothermal operations.
In the volcanic Azores Archipelago, on São Miguel Island, high enthalpy geothermal resources have been producing electrical power since 1980. The Pico Vermelho and Ribeira Grande geothermal power plants have a total installed capacity of approximately 12MWe and supply over 25% of the electricity consumed on the island.
In Chaves, Northern Portugal hot waters are tapped from two wells drilled in metamorphosed slates. The fluids from the wells are used in a small district heating network (swimming-pool, hotel and a greenhouse).The first well is, 147 m deep, the water temperature is reported as being 76 ºC, and flows at a rate of 5 litres per second. The second well also drilled through metamorphic slates with quartz veins is 98 metres deep and produces water at a temperature of 73 ºC, and flows at a rate of 10 litres per second. This well feeds the thermal bath. A cooling tower is needed to cool part of the water to be used in the spa. The geothermal field is the heart of the town.
Kernow Resources & Development Ltd
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Re : HISTOIRE CACHE DU PORTUGAL -
05/02/2010, 15h49
autres mines d'or portugaise sous la licence d'exploitation de multinationales
étrangeres
SUMMARY
This Exploration Contract covers an area of approximately 16.4 square kilometers and was granted for an initial period of two years in May of 2007. The contract can be renewed for a further 3 year period. The area encompasses several small mines that produced antimony from high grade veins at the end of the 19th and at the beginning of the 20th century. Gold is known to have been recovered from the antimony veins toward the end of the life of the antimony mines. Drifting along veins at Alto Sobrido by the Portuguese State Mining authority (Servico do Fomento Mineiro) in the 1960’s encountered pockets of high grade gold mineralisation associated with the antimony veins.
From 1998 to 2002 Connary Minerals explored the area. Work consisted of the completion of 2 diamond holes for 188 meters, the completion of 30 percussion holes for 714 meters, channel sampling of underground workings, extensive surface sampling and trenching.
Earlier work completed on the property includes the completion of 4 holes diamond drill holes by CBD (a Joint Venture between BRGM, EDM and Empresa Carbonifera de Douro). The holes drilled were SS1 to SS4 for 211.0 meters, the JV also conducted surface sampling along mineralized structures and underground channel sampling.
Diamond drilling on both the Alto Sobrido and Ribeiro da Serra prospects is planned to commence early in 2008.
There are three main known prospects within the Alto Sobrido concession and they are aligned along a 4 kilometer long northwest trending zone. From south to north they are as follows
Alto do Sobrido, the Ribeiro da Serra and the Tapada Prospects
Alto do Sobrido
There are small surface and underground workings at the Alto do Sobrido. The project area is situated on the western limb of the Valongo Anticline. The workings here are confined to an area of 300 meters x 500 metres. Most of the workings relate to the mining antimony in the late 19th century. However there is evidence that gold was recovered from the mineralized system. In addition extensive sampling has shown the presence of pervasive gold mineralization in the area.
Drilling, trenching and sampling has identified 3 veins sub parallel to each other and generally striking east west.
They are:
Vein A: This has been intersected in 3 places by drilling and returned values as: 3.2% Antimony across 2.0 meters (percussion) 3.92% Antimony over 4.75 meters (diamond drill) and 1.17 % Antimony over 1.0 meters (diamond drill). These intercepts occur from near surface up to 50 meters below surface.
Vein B: Has four intercepts, three from percussion holes and one from diamond drill (2.0% Antimony across two meters). Vein C: Has two intercepts, one from percussion drilling and one from diamond drilling (2.1% Antimony across 1.65 meters).
All of the intercepts have gold mineralization associated with them noted as: 9.20 g/t Au across 1.0 meter in Percussion Hole 6 and 9.8 g/t Au across 1.0 meter at a depth of 33 meters from Percussion Hole 17. In addition diamond drill hole DDAS 1 recorded an assay of 1.16 g/t Au across 1.65 meters from this vein. Most other gold values are in the 0.5 g/t to 1.0 g/t Au across 1.0 meter range.
True widths of the individual veins are estimated, from underground observations, to be between 0.25 meters and 2.0 meters.
The Servico do Fomento Mineiro completed and sampled some 300 meters of tunneling in the mid 1960’s. Channel sampling across the vein structure exposed in the Adit Minus 25m level returned strong antimony values along with exceptional gold grades:
Location
Within adit -25m
Sample #
Width of sample across
the vein meters
Antimony %
Gold g/t Au
Silver g/t Ag
56 W
3
0.90
1.9
165.6
29.5
56 W
2
0.50
1.3
139.0
21.4
56 W
1
1.00
7.2
120.3
31.7
These grades are NOT representative but show that high grade pockets of gold exist in association with the antimony. More representative grades and widths are recorded as follows:
Location
Within adit -25m
Sample #
Width of sample across
the vein meters
Antimony %
Gold g/t Au
Silver g/t Ag
62 W
27
0.20
0.3
2.3
1.5
62 W
26
0.21
2.2
3.4
2.1
62 W
25
0.22
4.5
20.7
3.6
62 W
24
0.50
11.3
9.5
1.5
62 W
23
0.93
29.5
11.6
2.9
62 E
28
0.80
8.1
9.6
2.1
77 W
41
0.33
1.5
3.4
0.4
77 W
40
0.60
3.3
1.0
1.1
77 W
39
0.34
0.6
1.0
1.4
77 W
38
0.50
1.0
3.0
2.4
77 W
37
1.50
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4.9
1.6
To west of the area a well silicified and brecciated structure of variable width (4 to 16 meters) has been identified by surface mapping, channel and chip sampling, trenching and by several drill holes (both percussive and diamond drill holes). The structure strikes initially to the north for some 200 meters. When striking north the structure dips steeply to the east.
Mapping has shown the structure then swings to the east and has been traced for another 100 meters. As the structure swings to the east the dip appears to flatten. Channel sampling and surface sampling has shown elevated values for gold along the entire 300m meters of the structure identified to date.
Gold grades in trenching are as follows:
Trench
Distance between trenches
Width (meters) of trench
Gold grade g/t Au
Antimony % in the same trench but not necessarily the same intercept
SJS1
0 north
8.0 meters
1.4 g/t Au
8.0 meters at 0.30% Sb
SJS2
66 m north of 1
4.0 meters
1.5 g/t Au
10 meters at 0.10% Sb
SJS5
150 m north of 2
16.9 meters
1.24 g/t Au
11.6 meters at 0.36% Sb
SJS6
25 m north east of 5
16. 6 meters
0.50 g/t Au
16.6 meters at 0.25% Sb
Kernow sampled the flat lying structure and returned values as follows:
Sample #
Location
Zone
Chip Length
Gold (g/t)
Silver (g/t)
Antimony %
312757
Alto Sobrido
Silicified structure
2.10
0.897
0.6
0.60%
312758
Alto Sobrido
Silicified structure
0.40
23.20
1.4
3.60%
Percussion drilling gave similar results to those seen in trenching and they are tabulated below.
Hole N.°
Maximum gold values
Intervals (g/t gold/interval)
PDAS5
1.20g/t/1m
1.0g/t gold across 2 m; 0.6g/t gold across 6m
PDAS6
9.20g/t/1m
3.05g/t gold across 4m; 1.33g/t gold across 12m
PDAS7
9.05g/t/1m
3.17g/t gold across 6m; 1.61g/t gold across 16m
PDAS8
2.91g/t/1m
1.76g/t across 4 m; 0.92g/t gold across 3m
PDAS9
3.76g/t/1m
1.99g/t gold across 4m; 1.33g/t gold across 7m
PDAS11
2.63g/t/1m
No significant intercept
PDAS12
1.72g/t/1m
1.65g/t gold across 2m
PDAS14
3.30g/t/1m
1.75g/t gold across 4m
PDAS15
1.52g/t/1m
1.20g/t gold across 4m
PDAS17
9.80g/t/1m
5.48g/t gold across2m
Ribeiro da Serra – Tapada Prospects
Ribeiro da Serra is an old antimony mine located some 650 meters northwest of the Alto Sobrido prospect. There are extensive underground workings but there are only two tunnels are currently accessible, the remaining old workings being flooded. The veins mostly trend in a northerly direction. The flatter-lying veins have been found not to be particularly rich in gold but have been extensively stoped during the mining of antimony down to depth of about 150 m below surface. Kernow has sampled the antimony veins and has recorded values as follows:
Sample #
Location
Zone
Chip Length
Gold (g/t)
Silver (g/t)
Antimony %
312762
Ribeiro da Serra
Adit
0.80
2.33
4.4
5.85%
312763
Ribeiro da Serra
Adit
1.00
5.80
2.4
3.37%
312764
Ribeiro da Serra
Adit
1.10
1.64
1.0
1.33%
312765
Ribeiro da Serra
Stope face
0.40
32.00
4.1
15.99%
Higher grade gold mineralisation is associated with the steeply dipping quartz veins that cross cut the flat lying antimony veins.
A review of previous data has shown that in the Gallery One grades of the following tenor are recorded from channel sampling (undertaken by Connary) across the vein structure.
Sample Numbers
Location
Length of sample (m)
Grade Au (g/t)
Grade Ag (g/t)
Grade Antimony (%)
Check Assay g/t Au
RS 9
Gallery 1
0.90
0.16
0.05
1.50 %
RS 10
Gallery 1
0.60
0.64
2.00
1.70 %
RS 11
Gallery 1
0.60
1.37
0.90
0.67 %
1.44
RS 12
Gallery 1
0.40
1.29
1.80
1.40 %
1.27
RS 13
Gallery 1
0.60
8.15
1.10
1.60 %
RS 14
Gallery 1
0.50
2.24
2.40
1.80 %
2.23
RS 15
Gallery 1
0.50
8.10
1.00
1.50 %
RS 24
Gallery 1
0.80
2.20
2.00
2.00 %
RS 26
Gallery 1
0.80
1.00
1.70
0.63 %
The above samples were taken at varying intervals along a 50 meter length of the Tunnel / Gallery 1 which strikes to the north.
Kernow completed confirmation sampling in this gallery and returned the following results:
Sample Numbers
Location
Length of sample (m)
Grade Au (g/t)
Grade Ag (g/t)
Grade Antimony (%)
Check Assay g/t Au
312762
Gallery 1
0.80
2.36
4.4
5.85%
2.33
312763
Gallery 1
1.00
5.78
2.4
3.37%
5.80
312764
Gallery 1
1.10
1.63
1.0
1.33%
1.64
Tapada Prospect
The Tapada deposit along with Fontinha is located between 300m and 700 m North West of Ribeiro da Serra and is a slightly larger mine development than Ribeiro da Serra. The dominant trends of quartz veins are North-North West and North East. Kernow sampled a quartz vein in the adit Number Six with the following result:
Sample #
Location
Zone
Chip Length
Gold (g/t)
Silver (g/t)
Antimony %
312766
Tapada
Adit 6
0.40
6.16
2.0
0.12%
NOTE:
The assay and sampling results quoted in the foregoing document are historical results. Kernow is in the process of verifying the data by conducting its own surface and underground sampling. In addition Kernow will re-sample and re-assay diamond drill core from the two drill holes DDAS-01 and DDAS-02
To date the majority of the confirmation samples taken by Kernow have returned higher antimony values than previously recorded. Kernow believes this is due to the application of a different more accurate assaying technique for antimony.
About Antimony
In common with most industrial metals, antimony is enjoying strong market conditions with prices having strengthened during the last two years to the current level of US$5,600/t ($2.55 /lb) for Antimony ingots. Supplies from China, which has historically contributed about 85% of world production, have tightened, opening opportunities for other producers to sell into a market where demand is forecast to grow at some 5% per annum.
Links to web sites about Antimony
www.antimony.net
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Canada
43-101 Statement
Alto Sobrido - Kernow Resources & Development Ltd
Kernow has decided not to continue with the option to acquire the Alandroal Property.
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Re : HISTOIRE CACHE DU PORTUGAL -
05/02/2010, 15h52
les miliers de m3 d"eau chaude ou l"energie gratuite en eaux chaudes données par une concession a un prix ridicule qui est
une centaine de milliers d'euros, est un acte de cession criminel,
dans la mesure, ou cette energie exploitée, pourrais fournir de l"energie gratuite a la moitié du portugal, sinon plus !,
le fait de donner de l'energie a des entreprises étrangeres sous des licences bradées alors que la population pourrais en tirer partie, sous la forme de octroy de travaux a des entreprises portugaises, que la population n'auras pas, la non compensation de cette energie bradé, ou exploité a d'autres fins que celle que pourrais profiter les regions, et les populations,
sous la forme, de rendements, a vie ! c'est un acte hautement politiquement et financierement criminel !
KERNOW PROVIDES UPDATE RELATIVE TO THE APPLICATION FOR GEOTHERMAL LICENCE, CHAVES, NORTHERN PORTUGAL
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Kernow Geothermal Application Area
Background of Geothermal Resources in Portugal
The geology of Portugal is permissive for several different types of geothermal resources. On the mainland, where intrusive and crystalline rocks cover over 60% of the area, thermal waters are related with active faulting. At least twenty-seven hot springs are noted and have discharge temperatures of between 25ºC and 75ºC. The majority of these hot springs are located in the central and northern part of the country and as mentioned occur along major structural breaks. The waters are mostly used for balneotherapy.
In the sedimentary basins in the south of the country, particularly in the Lisbon area, where population densities are higher and heat consumers are located, Lower Cretaceous reservoirs with temperatures up to 50ºC were tapped for small multipurpose geothermal operations.
In the volcanic Azores Archipelago, on São Miguel Island, high enthalpy geothermal resources have been producing electrical power since 1980. The Pico Vermelho and Ribeira Grande geothermal power plants have a total installed capacity of approximately 12MWe and supply over 25% of the electricity consumed on the island.
In Chaves, Northern Portugal hot waters are tapped from two wells drilled in metamorphosed slates. The fluids from the wells are used in a small district heating network (swimming-pool, hotel and a greenhouse).The first well is, 147 m deep, the water temperature is reported as being 76 ºC, and flows at a rate of 5 litres per second. The second well also drilled through metamorphic slates with quartz veins is 98 metres deep and produces water at a temperature of 73 ºC, and flows at a rate of 10 litres per second. This well feeds the thermal bath. A cooling tower is needed to cool part of the water to be used in the spa. The geothermal field is the heart of the town.
Location of the property
The area applied for is centred around the City of Chaves located in the Trás os Montes region of Northern Portugal.
Chaves is the major population centre of the area applied for and is situated on the main transport route between Spain and the major population centers of Northern Portugal. The city of Chaves lies 150 kilometers NE of Porto and 38 kilometers south of Verin in Spain. From Chaves all parts of the property can be reached within a 30 minute drive along on paved roads. The Chaves hydrothermal system has been known and used for medicinal purposes since Roman times. As mentioned above the thermal waters are currently tapped by springs as well as two boreholes that are 98 metres and 147 metres deep that are used for hydrotherapy and heating swimming pools.
Geology of the area applied for.
The Chaves graben is 7 kilometres by 3 kilometres in extent and is situated at an altitude of 350 metres above sea level. The area applied for covers the majority of this area.
The Vilarelho da Raia–Chaves region is part of a major hydro-geological province where the upflow of thermo-mineral waters are structurally controlled by the fault systems associated with the NNE-SSW megafault extending from Verin (Spain) to Penacova (central Portugal). The geomorphology of this province is dominated by several tectonic depressions. The “Chaves basin” and “Vilarelho da Raia basin” are grabens whose axes are roughly oriented NNE-SSW. They are bounded at the east side by the edge of Padrela Mountain as an escarpment with a 400 metre throw in Chaves region. In the NW part of Vilarelho da Raia area, the geomorphology is controlled by the Larouco Mountain (1500 m a.s.l.) whose escarpment is oriented NNE-SSW.
The region is located in the Ante-Mesozoic Iberian Massif that consists mainly of Hercynian granites and Palaeozoic metasediments (Portugal Ferreira et al., 1992). The oldest formations correspond to the Schisto-Graywacke Complex(Pre-Ordovician). During Ordovician and Silurian times quartzites and schists were formed, being metamorphosed at the end of Palaeozoic by the Hercynian granitic intrusions.
The Vilarelho da Raia and Chaves granites have been classified into the alkaline granites of the 3rd Hercynian phase (310 My). The Silurian metamorphic formations have been recognised in both the eastern and western sides of the Chaves basin. The most recent formations are Miocene- Pleistocene sedimentary series (lacustrine, alluvial, detritic, etc.). These formations show variable thickness along the basins. Extensive neo-tectonic features were originated by Alpine Orogeny. These events were responsible for the formation of what are perceived to be several low to mid level enthalpy hydrothermal fields.
The nature and goals of the proposed work program
Research by the Company and personnel from Green Bull Energy Inc. subscribe to the theory proposed in The Geothermal Atlas of Europe, published by Hunter & Hamel 2002 compiled by Commission of the European Communities EUR 17811, 2002 that in the Chaves basin there are two forms of geothermal waters. The first a re-circulating group that percolate downward through the extensive faulting system to mix with hot waters ascending from depth. The waters are heated by proximity to the granitic intrusions and through mixing. This is evidenced by the presence of relatively cold waters (17ºC) at Vilarelho da Raia and relatively hot waters in close proximity at Chaves (up to 120ºC). In addition differing gaseous phases are associated with each of the waters showing their different origins. It will be the intent of the Company to demonstrate that there is a suitable heat source at depth that can be tapped to produce electricity using newly developed binary fluid generating machinery.
The geothermal gradient of the area has not yet been verified but is believed to be between 35º and 65ºC per kilometre of depth. Estimates of the water temperature at depth range between 95ºC (shallow) and 204ºC (deep seated). Part of the proposed work program will be to establish the gradient and using mostly geophysical methods to establish the size of a “heat reservoir”.
The work program proposed to the DEGE is as follows:
First Year
Collect and analyse previous data;
Undertake interpretation of satellite images and orthography;
Complete Geological cartography;
Examine the Geo-structural analysis of the region;
Undertake Geophysical surveys, exact method yet to be determined but likely to include 3 D resisitivity and remodelling of existing data.
Undertake assessment of the applicability of ZTEM/ AirMt airborne AFMAG surveys to detect/ assist in geothermal exploration.
Create analogous 2D Forward models that simulate the expected ZTEM/AirMt responses over Geothermal targets.
Second year
Identification and selection of preferred drilling targets;
Reverse circulation drilling combined with diamond drilling to allow for the taking of core samples, target depths will be determined by the geophysical data.
Minimum target depths will be 750 metres.
Drilling of a deep surface cased slim hole to determine the geothermal gradient.
The Company has proposed to the DEGE to expend Euros 75,000 (approximately C$120,000) in the first year of the licence and Euros 175,000 (approximately C$280,000) in the second year
Green Bull Energy Inc.
The Company has also signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) with Green Bull Energy Inc. (Green Bull), a private company controlled by one of Kernow´s directors, Mr. J.L. Bulman. The LOI grants Green Bull the right to enter into a Joint Venture with Kernow to develop the area under application after paying the first Euro 100,000 (approximately C$160,000) of exploration expenditures on the property. The LOI envisages that after the rights to the property have been granted and after Green Bull has expended the monies, the companies will enter into a 50/50 JV to further develop the property. The LOI is subject to Exchange approval.
Green Bull has been active in assisting Kernow in the assessment of the potential of the area. This assistance has been provided through Mr. Terry Moore. Mr. Moore has over 27 years of experience in the oil and gas industry as a drilling engineer both offshore and onshore. His diverse engineering background has brought him to all areas of Canada, the North Sea areas of the UK and Ireland. Mr. Moore specializes in complex well planning and offshore drilling facility design.
Mr. Moore has worked as drilling engineer planning both shallow and deep wells and includes heavy oil, sour gas, and structurally complex fractured foothill wells.
In addition Green Bull and Kernow will call on the services of BJ Kalsi. Mr. Kalsi has extensive experience in drilling operations and has over 20 years of experience in the oil and gas industry and his current occupation is a Completions Superintended/Engineer. Mr. Kalsi has held several supervisory positions both offshore and onshore with a number of companies in Canada, the Netherlands, France, Kazakhstan and Australia. His main areas of expertise are wellsite management, various types of drilling, Coal Bed Methane and remote/logistically challenged operations (i.e. located in the Arctic, Eastern Canada and Kazakhstan).
Both Mr. Moore and Mr. Kalsi have experience in the field of oilfield style geophysics.
Kernow has a team of geological consultants it can call upon in Portugal but has decided that to enhance its technical team by choosing a partner familiar with the proposed exploration activities. In addition Green Bull will provide the first Euro 100,000 (approximately C$160,000 ) for the work program. Kernow will need to complete a financing to provide its portion of the work program and it is hoped that markets will be more favourable in the future.
The tenure process and requirements under Portuguese Law
According to the Portuguese Decree-Law n.º90/90, of 16th March, geothermal resources are “the fluids and underground geological formations, of high temperature, whose heat can be susceptible of utilization”. This definition is sufficiently wide to cover all of the modern utilizations of this energy.
Furthermore, Decree-Law n.º87/90 and n.º90/90, of 16th March, determines that geothermal resources belong to the public domain, but private companies and municipalities can apply for the right of exploration and exploitation, on the basis of a concession granted by the Ministry of Economy, or in the Autonomous Region of Azores by the Regional Secretariat of Economy.
As in the mining industry, the exploration and exploitation of geothermal resources have to be carried out under the supervision of a “Technical Director”, generally a geologist or mining engineer, employed by the concessionaire and accepted by the Direcção Geral de Energia e Geologia (DGEG), the governmental agency in charge of all mining and oil development energy development in Portugal, or in The Azores by the regional authorities.
To obtain a Licence the Company first has to submit a comprehensive document to the DGEG outlining the work program envisaged by the Company, the geological concepts that the application is based on, the area involved, the personnel that will be involved in the project, the amount of money to be invested and the financial capabilities of the Company. Following receipt of the document the DGEG reviews the contents and if found in order requests that the Company publish the form of the application in two National Newspapers and a local newspaper.
The Company published the application in the required Newspapers on Friday 17th April, 2009.
Following publication the DGEG will accept comment from the public and any interested parties relative to the application.
Subsequent to this and if there are no objections the Company and the DGEG enter into negotiations with the Company relative to the amount of rental payments, the amount of a performance bond and any other conditions the DGEG see fit to request. Once the two parties have agreed on the terms the Licence is sent to the legal department of the DGEG for drafting into the form of a contract between the State and the applicant. Following this the contract is signed at the timing of the State in a ceremony involving the Secretary for State and other government officials.
Title has not yet been granted. If and when granted it will give the Company the right to explore for geothermal and hydrothermal resources.
Should title be granted the initial period of grant is for 2 years. After the first year the Company is obliged to reduce the surface area of the claim by 50%. The license can be renewed 3 times for a further 1 year each. The size of the claim must also be reduced by 50% at each renewal.
Conclusion
Kernow in conjunction with Green Bull personnel has been developing this project for some time. It is essentially a grass roots project that will require significant development if geothermal resources are identified. To undertake that development both Kernow and Green Bull will need to undertake further financing and possibly bring in a senior partner to develop any major discovery.
It should be clearly stated that the Licence has yet to be granted, the terms and conditions of the licence have yet to be finalised and it may take several months to receive the contract. In the interim further due diligence regarding water rights and land tenure over the area applied for will need to be undertaken.
http://www.kernowresources.com/geothermal.asp
25 September 2009
KERNOW RECEIVES GEOTHERMAL LICENCE IN NORTHERN PORTUGAL
Mr. Alan Matthews, President of Kernow Resources & Developments Ltd. (“Kernow”) (TSX.V: KRD), is pleased to provide the following update on the granting of a Licence to explore for Geothermal Resources inthe area of Chaves in Northern Portugal. The successful receipt of this initial Geothermal Licence forms an important and strategic component to the recently announced merger through a Letter of Intent (“LOI”) of Kernow, with Galena International Resources Ltd. (TSX.V: GTO.P) (“Galena”), and Green Bull Energy Inc. (“Green Bull”) (Refer to Kernow Press Release September 21, 2009).
Portugal, which has a positive and forward looking policy on Renewable and Alternative Energy developmentaims to generate 45% of its total power consumption from renewable sources by 2010. The European Geothermal Energy Council (EGEC) reports (July 2009) that the participants of the recent World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland concluded that geothermal energy will offer the best possible cost-effective source of Renewable Energy.
Download full news story
http://www.kernowresources.com/newsdetail.asp?id=56
KERNOW SIGNS LETTER OF INTENT WITH GALENA INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES LTD. REGARDING A PROPOSED QUALIFYING TRANSACTION
Kernow Resources & Development Ltd. (TSX.V: KRD) (“Kernow”) is pleased to announce that it executed a Letter of Intent (“LOI”) with Galena International Resources Ltd. (TSX.V: GTO.P)(“Galena”), and Green Bull Energy Inc. (“Green Bull”) on September 9, 2009. Under the terms of the LOI, Galena and Kernow, will merge as corporations (the “Proposed Transaction”) and acquire all of the issued and outstanding shares of Green Bull Energy Inc. (“Green Bull”), a private British Columbia corporation, either by way of a corporate merger or a share exchange. The Proposed Transaction will form the qualifying transaction (the “Qualifying Transaction”) for Galena pursuant to rules and policies of the TSX Venture Exchange (the “Exchange”). The final structure of the Proposed Transaction is subject among other things, to the parties completing due diligence, receipt of final legal opinions and entering into a definitive agreement
http://www.kernowresources.com/newsdetail.asp?id=55
http://www.kernowresources.com/pdfs/...0LOI%20KRD.pdf
Chaves, Portugal (Geothermal Resources)
On April 8, 2009, Kernow announced that it has applied to the Portuguese Ministry of Economy and Innovation for
the rights to explore for Geothermal resources located in the area of Chaves in Northern Portugal. The application
will be reviewed by the Ministry and the Direcção-Geral de Energia e Geologia (“DGEG”) and, if successful,
Kernow will be granted the right to explore for Geothermal Resources over an area of approximately 200.90 square
kilometres. The location was selected by Kernow as it is known to host several hot springs and contains a deep
seated regional fault running from the south west to the north east of the property. The fault known as the Regua
Varim fault separates two granitic intrusions of Hercynian age to the east and west.
Kernow signed a Letter of Intent with Green Bull on March 9, 2009. The LOI granted Green Bull the right to enter
into a 50/50 joint venture with Kernow to develop the Chaves area under application for geothermal resources after
paying the first €100,000 (Approximately $160,000) of exploration expenditures on the property. The transaction
has been conditionally accepted by the Exchange but is subject to final review by the Exchange.
Jales, Portugal (Gold and Silver)
The Jales-Gralheira Gold Property is located in northern Portugal and covers an area of 5.05 square kilometers. The
concession area includes the past producing Jales Gold Mine which produced 830,000 oz of gold at an average grade
of 12.9g/t gold and nearly 3,000,000 oz of silver over its 50 year life. The mine closed in 1992. The Jales deposit
was mined to depth of 620m. The mineralization strikes from the south the north east and is believed to continue at
depth. Kernow has been involved for the past 7 years in the development of the Gralheira deposit located some 500
meters to the north and east of the Jales deposit.
la totalité des affaires de cette société au portugal !
http://www.kernowresources.com/news.asp
During 2002, the Company entered into an option agreement with St. Elias Mines Ltd. (“St. Elias”), a company
related by a common director at the time, whereby St. Elias can earn a 51% interest in the property in exchange for
cash payments totalling $50,000 (received), incurring cumulative exploration expenditures of $1,500,000
(completed) on the property and issuing a total of 500,000 common shares (received) at a value of $106,000 to the
Company over a three year period. St. Elias earned a 51% interest in the property and elected in 2005 to earn a
further 24% interest in exchange for additional cash payments totalling $100,000 ($25,000 received), incurring
additional exploration expenditures of $2,500,000 and issuing an additional 1,000,000 common shares over a three
year period.
In April 2007, St. Elias informed the Company that it had decided not to proceed with the second option and
therefore retains a 51% interest in the Jales/Gralheira gold property.
In May 2007, the Company was awarded an experimental mining license, replacing the exploration license for the
Jales property from the Direcção-Geral de Geologia e Energia (“DGGE”), a division of the Portuguese Ministry of
Economy and Innovation. The experimental license is for a period of three years. A performance deposit in the
amount of €50,000 has been posted and a minimum of €750,000 must be expended on the property over the three
year life of the license.
The Company has a Technical Services Contract with St. Elias whereby St. Elias will reimburse the Company, as
operator, for exploration costs incurred on a pro rata basis (51% as to St. Elias and 49% as to the Company). In
addition, St. Elias will pay the Company an 8% operator fee based on 100% of the exploration costs incurred on the
property. During the three month period ended March 31, 2009, the Company recovered $28,351 (2008 - $19,486) in
exploration costs. During the three month period ended March 31, 2009, the Company also earned $2,268 (2008 -
$1,907) as an operator fee.
Subsequent to March 31, 2009, the Company announced that it will purchase St. Elias’s 51% interest in the
Jales/Gralheira Property bringing its ownership
http://www.kernowresources.com/pdfs/...0Q1%202009.pdf
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Poco das Freitas Property (Boticas), Portugal
During the year ended December 31, 2004, the Company entered into a contract of exploration with the government
of Portugal to explore the Poco das Freitas property located in northeast Portugal. The contract was initially for two
years and was renewed for a further two years expiring in October 2008. The Company completed its commitment to
incur €45,000 (approximately $73,300) of exploration work on the property in the first two years and a further
€45,000 of exploration work by October 2008 (completed).
$$$$$ valor dado ao governo portugues pelos rendimentos da mina ! $$$$$$
In addition to the 3% royalty payable to the Government of Portugal, the Company must pay an additional €50,000
(approximately $81,400) per year for 5 years in the event of production.
voila ce que paye la société au portugal pour l'exploitation des mines !
http://www.kernowresources.com/pdfs/...0Q1%202009.pdf
MINERAL PROPERTIES (cont’d…)
Poco das Freitas Property (Boticas), Portugal (cont’d…)
During the 2008 fiscal year, the Company received notification from the DGGE, that the exploration contract for the
Boticas property will be extended until October 2009. The Company has committed to expend €45,000 during the
period of the extension.
Alto Sobrido, Portugal
In May 2007, the Company entered into an exploration contract with the DGGE for the Alto Sobrido property, in the
north east of Portugal. The exploration contract is for a period of two years and can be renewed for a further three,
one year periods each by reducing the area of the license by 50% at each annual renewal. A performance deposit in
the amount of €7,000 has been posted and a minimum of €25,000 must be expended on the property during the first
year and thereafter a minimum of €30,000 must be expended each year over the life of the license.
In June 2007, the Company signed a Letter of Intent with Global Minerals Ltd. (“Global”) that granted Global an
option to earn a 50% interest in the Alto Sobrido property.
In July 2008 the Company terminated the letter of agreement with Global relative to the Alto Sobrido property.
During fiscal 2008, the Company applied for the exclusive right to explore any coal deposits discovered on the Alto
Sobrido property. The Company is waiting for the final approval from the Portuguese government with regards to
the coal exploration licence.
SUBSEQUENT EVENTS
Subsequent to March 31, 2009, the Company:
1. Announced that it has applied to the Portuguese Ministry of Economy and Innovation for the rights to explore
for Geothermal Resources located in the area of Chaves in Northern Portugal.
The application will be reviewed by the Ministry and the Direcção-Geral de Energia e Geologia (“DGEG”) and,
if successful, the Company will be granted the right to explore for Geothermal Resources over an area of 200
square kilometres. The location was selected by the Company as it is known to host several hot springs and
contains a deep seated regional fault running from the south west to the north east of the property. The fault
known as the Regua Varim fault separates two granitic intrusions of Hercynian age to the east and west.
2. The Company has signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) with Green Bull Energy Inc.(“Green Bull”), a private
company controlled by one of the Company’s directors, Mr. J.L. Bulman. The LOI grants Green Bull the right
to enter into a Joint Venture with the Company to develop the area under application for Geothermal Resources
after paying the first €100,000 of exploration expenditures on the property. The LOI envisages that after the
rights to the property have been granted and after Green Bull has expended the monies, the companies will enter
into a 50/50 JV to further develop the property. The LOI is subject to Exchange approval.
3. The Company announced that it will purchase St. Elias Mines Ltd’s (“St. Elias”) 51% interest in the
Jales/Gralheira Property bringing its ownership of the Property to 100% by fulfillment of the following
conditions:
a) The Company will forgive all the outstanding payments due by St. Elias (currently such payments are in the
approximate amount of CDN$61,200).
b) The Company will pay St. Elias the sum of CDN$50,000 on receipt of satisfactory documentation quit
claiming all rights to the property to the Company.
c) On Exchange approval, the Company will issue St. Elias 1,000,000 common shares.
d) On receipt of a Full Mining License from the Portuguese Authorities and Exchange approval, the Company
will issue St. Elias a further 2,000,000 shares and pay to St. Elias a further CDN$100,000.
e) The resale of such shares will be restricted to not more than 100,000 shares per month for 10 months after
the expiry of the respective restricted resale periods imposed by applicable securities legislation and the
TSX Venture Exchange.
f) The Company will seek permission from the Portuguese Mining Authorities to award St. Elias a 0.40% net
smelter royalty on all metals produced from the property.
http://www.steliasmines.com/blog/arc...1_archive.html
http://www.steliasmines.com/blog/200...s-no-i-in.html
http://www.steliasmines.com/blog/200...hleira_20.html
St. Elias/Kernow Agreement – Jales/Grahleira
St. Elias Mines Ltd. (the “Company” or “St. Elias”) is pleased to have announced its intention to sell their 51% interest in the Jales/Grahleira Gold Property (the “Property”) to Kernow Resources & Developments Ltd. (“Kernow”).
Overview:
St. Elias owns a 51% interest in the Property with a 49% interest owned by Kernow. Kernow is a gold explorer based in Porto, Portugal. As per the joint news release dated Friday, April 17, 2009, Kernow has agreed to purchase the remaining 51% of the Property from St. Elias. Title to the Property is held by way of an Experimental Mining Licence granted to Kernow and St. Elias in May of 2007. The Licence is valid for three years from the date of grant.
The Property covers approximately 1,250 acres (5.2 sq kilometers) and is located in northern Portugal, approximately 125km northeast of the city of Porto. The Property includes the Jales Mine, which produced about 830,000 ounces of gold in ore grading up to 12.9 g/t gold between 1933 to 1992. It also covers the Gralheira Gold and Silver deposit, which has been explored by drilling, 126 drill holes (completed to a maximum depth of 511 meters) over a strike length of 2,700 m, underground sampling from a 350 m long adit and 200 m of crosscuts, and a TITAN24 IP/Resistivity geophysical survey.
The following terms are contingent on Kernow receiving a Full Mining License from the Portuguese government, permission from the Portuguese Mining Authorities to award St. Elias a 0.4% NSR on the Property, and Exchange approval. Upon successful fulfillment of all terms, Kernow will own 100% of the Property and St. Elias will receive the following as per the agreement:
$$$$$$valor da compra da mina de jales $$$$$$$
1.Cash equivalent of CDN $150,0002.Forgiveness of all outstanding payments due to Kernow by St. Elias (approx. $61,200)3.3,000,000 (3 million) shares in Kernow’s stock (V.KRD)4.0.4% Net Smelter Return Royalty (NSR)
At present, St. Elias/Kernow currently hold an Experimental Mining License on the Property. In order to maintain this license, the Companies must carry out development/experimental mining work at a cost of approximately CDN $600,000. Following this time (after May 2010), under Portuguese mining regulations, the holder of the license must upgrade to a “Full Mining License” imposing further monetary obligations in order to take the Property into production (I.e. Feasibility study, building a mill, etc…, all at a substantial cost).
Terry Nixon, VP, Corporate Communications says, “This is a very strategic move for St. Elias as it eliminates the company’s financial responsibility on the property while still providing for great potential profits through ownership in KRD and a potential 0.4% NSR; a win-win for both parties. St. Elias is free of any future obligations on The Property while still retaining a vicarious interest, with no dilution to the shareholders.”
“This is another great step towards the immediate goal of channeling our efforts and resources on our Peruvian assets. More specifically, the Tesoro Project will be our first and primary target as we intend to carry out an ambitious program to prove up reserves and locate the source of the gold that is producing the high grade veins we are encountering”, says Lori McClenahan, President & CEO, St. Elias Mines Ltd.
For more information, contact Terry Nixon by phone at 778.238.6160 or by email at TNixon@StEliasMines.com.
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The SLI White Papers: Drill Results from the Jales/Gralheira Gold Property, Portugal
Drill Results from the Jales/Gralheira Gold Property, Portugal
Today St. Elias announced results from a recent drilling program on the Jales/Gralheira Gold Property (the "Property") in northern Portugal. The results of this drilling program were consistent with all previous exploration/drilling programs conducted on the Property.
The main mineralized intersection returned 2.05 g/t over 5.5 metres
that included 10.1 g/t gold and 37.5 g/t silver across 0.65 metres.
The Property is owned 51% by St. Elias Mines Ltd. and 49% by Kernow Resources & Developments Ltd. (collectively the "Companies".) The claims comprising the Property are held under an Experimental Mining License. This drillling program, together with metallurgical testing, is part of an ongoing program on the Property, the results of which will form part of a scoping study being prepared by the Companies to advance the Property under the Experimental Mining License.
The Property covers a large mesothermal gold/silver vein system.&n bsp; Mesothermal gold deposits are known globally for their large size and continuation to depth. The
Property includes the Jales Mines (the largest gold project/mine in Portugal), which produced about 830,000 ounces of gold in ore grading 12.9g/t gold and approximately 3,000,000 ounces silver between 1933-1992.
Kernow to purchase 51% of the Jales/Gralheira Gold Property, Portugal from St. Elias
4/17/2009 (BAYSTREET NEWSWIRE) "Mr. Alan Matthews, C. Eng., President of Kernow Resources & Developments Ltd., (TSX.V:KRD) and Lori McClenahan, President of St. Elias Mines Ltd. (collectively the “Companies”), are pleased to provide the following update regarding the Jales/Gralheira Gold Property (the “Property”) in Portugal.
Following discussions between Kernow Resources & Developments Ltd. and St. Elias Mines Ltd., the companies have agreed that Kernow will purchase St. Elias’ 51% interest in the Jales/Gralheira Property bringing its ownership of the Property to 100% by fulfillment of the following conditions:
Kernow will forgive all the outstanding payments due to Kernow by St. Elias (currently such payments are in the approximate amount of CDN$61,200).
Kernow will pay St. Elias the sum of CDN$50,000 on receipt of satisfactory documentation quit claiming all rights to the property to Kernow.
On Exchange approval, Kernow will issue St. Elias 1,000,000 shares in the capital of Kernow.
On receipt of a Full Mining License from the Portuguese Authorities and Exchange approval, Kernow will issue St. Elias a further 2,000,000 shares and pay to St. Elias a further CDN$100,000.
The resale of such shares will be restricted to not more than 100,000 shares per month for 10 months after the expiry of the respective restricted resale periods imposed by applicable securities legislation and the TSX Venture Exchange.
Kernow will seek permission from the Portuguese Mining Authorities to award St. Elias a 0.40% net smelter royalty on all metals produced from the property.
A Brief history of the Jales Complex
Jales/Gralheira Gold Property covers approximately 1,250 acres (500 hectares) and is located in northern Portugal. The Property includes the Jales Mine, which produced about 830,000 ounces of gold in ore grading up to 12.9g/t gold between 1933 and 1992. It also covers the Gralheira Gold and Silver deposit, which has been explored by drilling, 126 drill holes (completed to a maximum depth of 511m (metres)) over a strike length of 2,700m, underground sampling from a 350m long adit and 200m of crosscuts, and a TITAN24 IP/Resistivity geophysical survey.
About Kernow
Kernow is a gold explorer based in Porto, Portugal, with a portfolio of prospective gold and antimony/gold projects including the Jales/Gralheira project, now 100% Kernow, the Boticas project (100% Kernow) and the Alto Sobrido project (100% Kernow). For further information concerning Kernow’s activities please visit its website at www.kernowresources.com or contact Mr. Alan Matthews by telephone in Portugal at + (351) 93 676 0927 or by facsimile at + (351) 22 610 5199 or by e-mail at: piran@mindspring.com.
About St. Elias
St. Elias is a mineral exploration company listed on the TSX Venture Exchange and owns interests in properties located in Peru, and Canada. The Company’s primary focus will now be on the development of its Peruvian assets For additional information on St. Elias and its projects, please visit www.steliasmines.com or call 1-888-895-5522 (toll free US and Canada).
Neither TSX Venture Exchange nor the Investment Industry Regulatory Organization of Canada accepts responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Galena....html?x=0&.v=1
In January 2008 (see News Release dated January 18, 2008) Kernow and St. Elias Mines Ltd. received a resource report entitled "A Report on the Mineral Assets of the Gralheira Gold-Silver property, Portugal" prepared by Wardell Armstrong International Ltd. (WAI) of Cornwall, U.K. The report estimated the following gold and silver resources at the Property:
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Measured 30,000 5.92 5,768 30,000 29.8 29,067
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Indicated 569,000 5.24 95,825 569,000 22.8 417,500
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Measured & Indicated 599,000 5.27 101,593 599,000 23.18 446,567
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Inferred 975,000 4.72 142,972 975,000 15.0 483,621
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tem terrenos ao pé de chaves? nao vendem os terrenos ! e atençao a quem la aparece para vos comprar os terrenos !
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15/02/2010, 12h25
o tratado de alvor
um temos tratado feito por um gouverno de funcionarios portugueses
esquerditas e golpistas, agentes da russia e da china
que nunca chegara a ser respeitado!
nem o envio das tropas portuguesas artigo 32
nem o acordo entre os comparsas rebeldes em que lhe era dado angola numa bandeja !
entretanto no artigo 53 portugual compromete se contruçao do banco de angola, com
activos e passivos.
seria interessante saber como foi reconstruido o banco angolano
e saber se os fundos que vieram de de portugal, voltaram para portugal como forma de retrosseçao dos capitais enviados , e os devidos retornos de juros,
ou se estes dinheiros, foram perdoados em nome de algums funcionarios esquerditas que gouvernaram portugal.
o se este dinheiro foi comido pela guerra civil,
o que seria tambem interessante de saber, é se este dinheiro que deveria servir para a construçao do banco de angola, se foi enviado dos coffres do banco de portugal em plena guerra civil..para angola penso que a historia um dia o dira...
http://www.congressocabinda.org/acor...S_DE_ALVOR.pdf
nao avendo accordo entre os tres chefs rebeldes, unita, mpla e fnla
ficou cabinda, ficou a questao da auterminaçao de cabinda
que esta hoje sobre a tutela de angola,
essa tutela, legal ou illegal, nao conduz com o acordo de alvor em que os 3 chefes rebeldes puseram sua assinatura.
a guerra civil e a dominaçao de um rebelde foi o que no lugar desse tratado
o que continua a criar um certo conflito para os cidadaos de cabinda, que nao podem levar a termo sua autodéterminaçao.
nem o estado portugues, nao pode garantir o seu papel de garante, para um tratado que nao foi respeitado.
o que é interessante de observar na nova historia de angola, é que tem havido uma tropa de advogados, que do estatuto que adquiriram para defenderem os direitos do povo portugues, tem defendido interesses proprios , muitos de negocios diversos, e arte de conselhar na tecnica da exploraçao ou distribuiçao do petroleo,
sem que o povo portugues, possa saber o que realmente essa minoridade gente elite , tem concluido graças a esse tratado de alvor em vez de ajudar o direito de portugal ae a justiça de portugal a evoluir ...
o que acho injusto, é porqué uma minoria de portugueses tem o direito de ir para a angola, negociar, trabalhar, e ganhar boas comissoes, e uma maioria de portugueses, nao podem ir para angola como querem, sem que lhes seja facilitado o direito, de trabalho, num antigo territorio que pertencia a portugal a mais de 500 anos !
veja o que o dom duarte diz sobre cabinda !
A responsabilidade histórica de Portugal
23-Jan-2008
É do dever de Portugal assumir as suas responsabilidades históricas.
Neste início do ano 2008, que podería ser rico em ressalto na solução do conflito de Cabinda, e tendo em conta a responsabilidade e a culpabilidade evidente de Portugal quanto à origem do diferendo que rasga dois povos africanos, o do Território de Cabinda e o da República de Angola, a redacção da flecnoticias.com considera que é importante recordar aqui a alocução corajosa pronunciada por DOM Duarte, o Duque de Bragance em 1995 por ocasião de apresentação dos votos à seus concidadãos Portugueses. O Duque de Bragance tinha então declarado que a decolonização dos territórios do ultramar português não era exemplar e que essa "décolonização" era a causa de situações de conflitos abertos e das destruições humanas e materiais constantes. Entregamo-vos, aqui e a título de recordação, um extracto dessa alocução do legítimo Herdeiro dos Reis de Portugal.
Dirigindo-se à nação portuguesa, declarou então :
“…Não arendemos com os erros dos outros, quero dizer, não tirámos lições das deficientes descolonizações belga, britânica,espanhola e francesa. Em vez disto temo-nos erradamente culpabilizado por não termos sido dos primeiros a agir do mesmo modo... Porém, ao assumirmos perante a História as nossas responsabilidades colectivas, não poderemos deixar de assumir os nossos erros, em particular no caso de CABINDA. Cabe-nos aqui o dever moral de alertar as consciências do mundo para o seu direito à AUTODETERMINAÇÃO. Fazê-lo, é contribuir para o encontro de uma paz verdadeira e sólida entre os africanos.
Pouco importa se, neste caso, o Tratado de Alvor, consagrou a integração do Território e do seu Povo em Angola e se tal foi reconhecido pelas Nações Unidas. As leis nem sempre são justas e os tratados raremente contemplam os os direitos de terceiros. E, nesta questão, avulta não só o facto de Portugal ter violado um tratado com CABINDA, que respeitara até 1974, quero dizer, o TRATADO de SIMULAMBUCO que consagrava internacionalmente o estatuto de Protectorado daquele Território, - mas a evidência de que o Povo de CABINDA não ter sido faculdade ao direito à AUTODETERMINAÇÃO. Em consequência, o estado angolano passou a ter fronteiras mais alargadas e ricas do que a descolonizada Província Ultramarina de Angola. Fronteiras ditadas não pelo direito dos povos mas pelos interesses petrolíferos; fronteiras criadas não pelo respeito pelos homens mas pela implacável lei dos negócios e dos interesses estratégicos dos mais fortes...”
Quêm pode melhor dizer que esse Digno Filho da Dinastia Portuguesa que permanece, aos nossos olhos, uma força moral e política inalienável para a sobrevivência da cultura civilizadora de Portugal.
As autoridades da República de Portugal, herdeiros e tesoureiros também, dos compromisso internacionais ligados à história milenária de Portugal, deveriam inspirar-se da sabedoria de DOM Duarte para aceitar de assumir a responsabilidade e a culpabilidade de Portugal sobre os sofrimentos dos quais são vítimas as populações cabindesas na sequência de anexão ilegal do Território de Cabinda a Angola.
flecnoticias
Front de Libération de l'Enclave du Cabinda - La responsabilité historique du Portugal
un historiador o cronista angolano chines Mbêli-i-Tsèng' conta nos a historia moderna de cabinda...
La Politique angolaise du Portugal
27-Feb-2008
Le Portugal avait élaboré en Angola une doctrine coloniale fondée sur l'assimilation et l'intégration. Se fondant sur cette doctrine, le gouverneur NORTON de MATOS considéra alors l'Angola comme une nation portugaise plutôt qu'une colonie. Ces colons portugais bénéficiaient de tous les privilèges au détriment des autochtones victimes aussi du racisme.
Pour accéder au statut d'assimilé qui conférait tous les droits attachés à la citoyenneté portugaise, il fallait entre autre être métis, savoir lire et écrire portugais... Quant aux non-assimilés, ils étaient regroupés par tribu, chefferie ou famille, jetant les bases du tribalisme dont devaient souffrir les trois mouvements nationalistes angolais(le fnla, le mpla et l'unita) avec un penchant portugais pour les assimilés.
A ce propos, SAVIMBI dans un entretien de 2001 cite la complexité des gouvernements successifs portugais pourtant garants des accords de paix, notamment celle de JOSE MANUEL DURAO BARROSO, le secrétaire d'Etat portugais aux affaires étrangères et à la coopération (actuel président de la commission européenne), tout neutre qu'il prétendait être dans son rôle de médiateur durant les négociations unita-mpla, s'était révélé à cette occasion un partisan zélé du mpla et un ennemi juré de l'unita : il déclarait, en pleine offensive victorieuse des troupes du mpla qu'il fallait maintenir la pression sur l'unita.
C'est bien la caractéristique de la culture politique portugaise qui consiste à soutenir verbalement les bonnes causes pour mieux les trahir dans les faits. Cette posture de ne pas offenser ou choquer la nomenklatura angolaise est la règle d'or à Lisbonne depuis 1975, année du prêt à durée illimitée du Cabinda à l'Angola par le Portugal. Ce pacte des siamois a fait du Portugal un angola-dépendant et du Cabinda un pays sacrifié pour ses richesses énormes.
Ainsi, comme l'avait dit richard NIXON en 1956 : qui contrôle l'Afrique contrôle le monde, le Portugal pour sa survie dans le concert des nations tient le Cabinda dans cette position de pillage sans limites car ne l'oublions pas le Portugal est une petite nation, aux ressources limitées, qui n'a ni la force ni la capacité de son auto-survie. Mais les ressources pillées au Cabinda sont suffisantes pour appuyer de façon significative son développement et celui de ses deux petits ETATS-ARCHIPELS de l'atlantique (les açores et l'île de madère) d'une part et de défendre ensemble avec ses industriels et universitaires une coopération très forte voire exclusive avec le bijou de la colonisation portugaise le Cabinda, afin d'accélérer le développement du Portugal, d’autre part. Il s'agit en quelque sorte de faire jouer au Cabinda, dans l'économie portugaise, le rôle qu'a tenu le brésil pendant le XIXe et la moitié du XXe siècle dans le développement du portugal.
A ce titre, il n'y a qu'a voir le nombre de V.I.P portugais en Angola profitant des souffrances du peuple cabindais. Très discrets, les hommes d'affaires portugais sont très influents en angola. Les cabinets d'avocats portugais sont de plus en plus actifs à luanda. Associé à un partenaire local, le cabinet PIMJ-A.M.PEREIRA, SARRAGA LEAL, OLIVEIRA MARTINS, JUDICE e ASSOCIIADOS dispose ainsi d'un portefeuille angolais fourni, supervisé à Lisbonne par maître JORGE BRITO PEREIRA et à Luanda par l'avocate SILVIA ESPIRITO SANTO. L'un des plus anciens avocats portugais opérant en Angola, JOSE FRANCO CAIADO, collabore avec le réseau de ses anciens stagiaires dont EUNICE FERRAZ et CARLOS SANGUEVE. Ex-conseiller de majors pétroliers tels que gulf oil et chevron corp, AGOSTINHO PEREIRA de MIRANDA a fondé son cabinet dans les années 90. Il compte une trentaine d'avocats dont certains traitent exclusivement des dossiers pétroliers comme RUI AMENOLOEIRA et CATARINA da CUNHA e TAVORA. Son principal concurrent est CARLOS de SOUZA e BRITO, un ex-inspecteur général du secteur pétrolier au portugal. Contrairement au cabinet FRANCO CAIADO GUERREIRO qui à crée à Lisbonne un département "spécial Angola", CARLOS de SOUZA e BRITO dispose d'une antenne en angola.
Dans les affaires, le secteur du B.T.P domine. SOARES da COSTA, dont les dossiers africains sont supervisés par MANUEL CARMO, gère pas moins d'une cinquantaine de chantiers sur place, en particulier pour la sonangol. L'un des chantiers les plus importants est le complexe immobilier TORRES ATLANTICO, réalisé en collaboration avec le groupe MOTA-ENGIL dont les affaires africaines sont contrôlées depuis Lisbonne par JOSE RIBEIRO PINTO et VITOR ALVES. Le troisième major du B.T.P portugais est TEIXEIRA DUARTE qui a construit deux hôtels à luanda. Son directeur international est LUIS VICENTE.
Parmi les personnalités portugaises qui ont le plus d'influence sur les affaires angolaises figurent le pdg de millenium/bcp, PAULO TEIXERA PINTO, ex-membre du gouvernement conservateur d'ANIBAL CAVACO SILVA, ainsi que ILIDIO SANTOS et HELDER BATAGLIA, les deux directeurs de la banco espirito santo (B.E.S) qui accordé un prêt de 3.5 milliards de dollars à l'Angola, prêt garanti sur les richesses du cabinda. Dans les milieux politiques et du renseignement : JOAO ATAIDE de CAMARA, ex-directeur Afrique du ministère des affaires étrangères, aujourd'hui directeur du serviço de informaçoës estratégicas de defesa (S.I.E.D) et l'ambassadeur portugais en France, ex-ministre des affaires étrangères dirigent le cercle de réflexion think africa.
Dans l'absolu, le pillage du Cabinda se partagent entre l'ETAT destructeur angolais, l'ETAT prédateur portugais et tous les intermédiaires véreux y compris les nouveaux arrivants B.R.I.C (Brésil, Russie, Inde, Chine).
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Manipulação Sobre a nomeação de José Gualter dos Remédios Inoncêncio, Senhor Raul Manuel Danda, membro da sociedade civil de Cabinda, diz : “ O indivíduo que está a ser nomeado para vice-ministro dos Petróleos é um Senhor que é cabo-verdiano, que sempre trabalhou para a segurança, já foi apontado como indivíduo que tentou infiltrar-se no PDP-ANA para aquela história conhecida de quinta coluna, alguém que se quis infiltrar também no partido FpD é um indivíduo que depois quis minar a Associação Tratado de Simulambuco em Portugal, e é ainda o indivíduo que não sei porque artes mágicas foi aparecer ao lado de Bento Bembe. Details...
O petróleo de miséria em Cabinda O preço do barril de petróleo atingiu seu nível mais elevado desde o início do ano. Mas, as populações do Território de Cabinda vivem ainda et sempre miséria mais extrema. Details...
FLEC ativo No início de próximo mês, o Secretário Executivo do Fórum Cabindês para o Diàlogo, Senhor Antoine Nzita Mbemba vai efectuar uma missão de trabalho na África Austral. Details...
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CABINDA : Sítio oficial do Governo Cabindês no exílio da F.L.E.C
1885 - Tratado de Simulambuco
TRATADO DE SIMULAMBUCO
Art. 1º - Os príncipes e mais chefes e seus sucessores declaram, voluntariamente, reconhecer a soberania de Portugal, colocando sob o protectorado desta nação todos os territórios por eles governados.
Art. 2º - Portugal reconhece e confirmará todos os chefes que forem reconhecidos pelos povos segundo as suas leis e usos, prometendo-lhes auxílio e protecção.
Art. 3º - Portugal obriga-se a fazer manter a integridade dos territórios colocados sob o seu protectorado.
Art. 4º - Aos chefes do país e seus habitantes será conservado o senhorio directo das terras que lhes pertencem, podendo-as vender ou alugar de qualquer forma para estabelecimento de feitorias de negócio ou outras indústrias particulares, mediante pagamento dos costumes, marcando-se de uma maneira clara e precisa a área dos terrenos concedidos, para evitar complicações futuras, devendo ser ratificados os contratos pelos comandantes dos navios de guerra portugueses, ou pelas autoridades em que o governo de sua majestade delegar os seus poderes.
Art. 5º - A maior liberdade será concedida aos negociantes de todas as nações para se estabelecerem nestes territórios, ficando o governo português obrigado a proteger esses estabelecimentos, reservando-se a direito de proceder como julgar mais conveniente, quando se provar que se tenta destruir o domínio de Portugal nestas regiões.
Art. 6º - Os príncipes e mais chefes indígenas obrigam-se a não fazer tratados nem ceder terrenos aos representantes de nações estrangeiras, quando esta cedência seja com carácter oficial e não com o fim mencionado no artigo 4º.
Art. 7º - Igualmente se obrigam a proteger o comércio quer dos portugueses, quer dos estrangeiros e indígenas, não permitindo interrupção nas comunicações com o interior, e a fazer uso das suas autoridades para desembaraçar os caminhos, facilitando e protegendo as relações entre vendedores e compradores, o as missões religiosas e científicas que se estabeleçam temporária ou permanentemente nos seus territórios; assim como o desenvolvimento da agricultura.
§ único. - Obrigam-se mais a não permitir o tráfico de escravatura nos limites dos seus domínios.
Art. 8º - Toda e qualquer questão entre europeus e indígenas será resolvida sempre com a assistência do comandante do navio de guerra português que nessa ocasião estiver em possível comunicação com a terra, ou de quem estiver munido de poderes devidamente legalizados.
Art. 9º - Portugal respeitará e fará respeitar os usos e costumes do país.
Art. 10º - Os príncipes e governadores cedem a Portugal a propriedade inteira e completa de porções de terreno, mediante o pagamento dos seus respectivos valores, a fim de neles o governo português mandar edificar os seus estabelecimentos militares, administrativos ou particulares.
Art. 11º - O presente tratado assinado pelos príncipes e chefes do país, bem como pelo capitão-tenente comandante da corveta «Rainha de Portugal», começa a ter execução desde o dia da sua assinatura, não podendo, contudo, considerar-se definitivo senão depois de ter sido aprovado pelo Governo de Sua Majestade.
Simulambuco, em Cabinda, 1 de Fevereiro de 1885, (a) Guilherme Augusto de Brites Capello (seguem-se as assinaturas de todos os príncipes e nobres de Cabinda).
Este tratado foi explicado e lido em língua do país, ficando todos inteirados do seu conteúdo antes de assinarem e fazerem o sinal de + (cruz), na minha presença e comigo, António Nunes de Serra e Moura, aspirante do corpo de oficiais da Fazenda da Armada, servindo de escriturário (a) Nunes de Serra e Moura.
Afirmamos e juramos, sendo preciso, que as assinaturas e sinais são dos indivíduos, por os conhecermos pessoalmente e os termos visto assinar este auto (a) João Puna, João Barros Franque, Vicente Puna, Guilherme Franque.
Estavam presentes a este acto as seguintes pessoas: (a) Onofre Alves de Santiago, M. J. Corrêa, Alexandre Manuel António da Silva, J. C. Contreiras; oficiais da corveta «Rainha de Portugal»: (a) Cristiano Frederico Knusse Gomes, 1º tenente; Eduardo Ciríaco Pacheco, 1º tenente; António da Fonseca Sarmento, 2º tenente; João de Matos e Silva, facultativo naval de 1ª classe; Alberto António de S. Marino, G.-Mª; José Francisco, G.-Mª; João António Ludovice, G.-Mª.
(Fonte: A Independência de Cabinda, Queluz, Edição Literal, 1977)
Relacionados
D. Duarte de Bragança, Mensagem de 1 de Dezembro de 1994
D. Duarte de Bragança, Mensagem de 1 de Dezembro de 1999
D. Duarte de Bragança, Cabinda e Timor, 25 de Março de 2001
Bispo de Cabinda diz que Portugal errou, 8 de Abril de 2001
University of Cabinda Zdenka Volavka
Bibliografia
A Gente de Cabinda (The Honorable People of Cabinda)
Cabindas. História, Crenças, Usos e Costumes
Abbe PROYART, History of Loango, Kakongo, and Ngoyo, Paris,1776
Pe Joaquim Martins, O Simbolismo dos Cabindas, 1961
A Independência de Cabinda, Queluz, Edição Literal, 1977
Jan Vissers, «In der minne schikken». Sprekende deksels duit Cabinda, Rijksmuseum voor Volkenkunde, Leiden, 1982.
Spreekwoorden in Beeld een aparte kunst uit Cabinda, Africa Museum, Berg en Dal, 1985
António Zati, Cabindês, Fiote ou Ibinda - Língua Nacional de Cabinda, 1994
Adulcino Silva, Cabinda. A Verdade Oculta, 1994
Zdenka Volavka, Crown and Ritual. The Royal Insignia of Ngoyo(Introduction and Conclusions by Colleen E. Kriger; Edited by Wendy A. Thomas), University of Toronto Press, 1998
Amnesty International, Angola. Extrajudicial executions and torture in Cabinda, 1.04.1998.
Elisabeth M. J. Koné, The Right of Self-Determination...(African_Studies/Workshop 1998)
Carlos M. Alexandrino da Silva, Ecmnésia Histórica Colonial (Cabinda não é Angola, Partes I a VI), 2000
se o governo portugues declara nulo este tratado é uma coisa,
se este tratado continua valido é outra !
se é valido, porque é que so algums portugueses tem a protecçao de portugal?
sao mais que os outros porque ja nasceram com uma herança maior?
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15/02/2010, 12h45
se o governo portugues declara nulo tanto o tratado de alvor como o tratado simulambuco é uma coisa,
se os tratados continuam validos é outra !
se sao validos, porque é que so algums portugueses vip tem a protecçao de portugal em angola ?
sao mais que os outros porque ja nasceram com uma herança maior?
é este o portugal démocratico que prometiam em que o sol brilha para todos?
o é o portugal démocratico so para algums?
. . . . Front de Libération de l'Enclave du Cabinda - Serum de Vérité
algums dos portugueses mais influentes em angola !
DIAMANTS - Espirito Santo lorgne les diamants du Kasa - C - Africa Mining Intelligence Edition franaise
un directeur d'une grande banque portugaise est pret a investir un million de dollar
dans les mines du congo kasai, ces investissements sont issus directement de la banque et des déports des économies des clients portugais
ou est ce de sa fortune personnelle?
CONGO-K
Espirito Santo lorgne les diamants du Kasaï
En visite à Mbuji-Mayi fin avril, le président du conseil d’administration du portugais Grupo Espirito Santo (GES), Helder Bataglia, s’est dit prêt à investir un million de dollars dans les secteurs des mines, de l’énergie, du transport et de l’agriculture au Kasaï oriental. (...) [227 mots] [4€]
PRESS NET - Angola - Interview
Luanda - La recherche de diamants sur le marché international permettra le doublement de la production d’ici 2020, en raison de la relance de l’économie américaine et des besoins des pays émergents comme la Chine et l’Inde, a déclaré vendredi, à Luanda, le président du conseil d’Escom, Helder Bataglia.
Angola Press - Economie - Recherche des diamants va doubler la production mondiale d'ici 2020
[PDF] Descarregar - BESAFormat de fichier: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
Hélder José Bataglia dos Santos. Ilídio Domingos das Matas Santos ..... ção de Angola a este mercado é limitada, mas essen- ...... dade da banca de investimento e dos serviços pres- ...... context of total risk aversion, the dollar was restored ...... 3.5 bn. However, only the first phase of the program- ...
besa.ao/ShowDocument.aspx?docId=581.pdf
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15/02/2010, 13h09
hoje homens de negocio servem se de instituiçoes financeiras portuguesas e do artigo
46° 47 e 48° do tratado de alvor da dupla nacionalidade
para fazer negocios nao bancarios, e recuperaçao dos bems de portugal, que deveria ser o papel do estado portugues 49° do capitulo VIII
bems que normalmente portencem aos portugueses que construiram angola , segundo o tratado de alvor
artigo 29 linha d e o artigo 49 do capitulo 8
http://www.congressocabinda.org/acor...S_DE_ALVOR.pdf
desde ja que o estado portugues soube garantir os cumpromissos financeiros do estado portugues artigo 50 para ajudar os rebeldes e os que mandam hoje em angola
porqué que sao vip privados portugueses nao ligados ao estado que geram o que era dos portugueses?
como as quintas de produçao de bananas...
U.S. Chiquita Brands International Inc and a partner have quit plans to enter Angola's once-thriving banana industry after failing to secure the best land to grow and export bananas.
Chiquita's partner in Angola, Escom (Xetra: 600720 - news) , said it decided to back away from the project it had been studying for two years because the land it secured to grow bananas was far from the centre of the port city of Lobito, which made the project less feasible.
'We had to relocate to an area further away from the centre of Lobito and Benguela than we had wanted. This made the project less feasible,' said Helder Bataglia, head of Escom, the Angolan arm of Portugal's Grupo Espirito Santo and its bank BES and one of Angola's largest private non-oil investors.
Angloa - Demise of banana industry
outros negocios de vip, quantos minas de diamantes pertenciam a portugal?
http://www.moneybiz.co.za/business_i...ond_output.asp
LUANDA/LISBON (Reuters) - Portuguese conglomerate Escom said on Thursday it expects to produce 180,000 carats per month by July of 2010 from a joint venture mine in Angola that is one of the world's largest diamond operations.
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15/02/2010, 13h43
a china connection
quando portugueses negociam a titulo privado?
os antigos bems de portugal com gente de paises que eram inimigos de portugal
e enviavam armas para combater os nossos soldados....
principal colaborador na área da Defesa Nacional portuguesa, a ESCOM, do grupo Espirito Santo (GES/BES) é o principal investidor nacional em Angola. Pensar-se-ia que se trata de capitais nacionais. Mas é aqui que vamos encontrar a ESCOM associada com a BEYA e/ou Estado Chinês (!) formando a CHINA BEIYA ESCOM por onde passam todos os vultuosos investimentos chineses em Angola e no Congo Brazaville. Os lucros para a Escom nesta parceria cifraram-se em 2005 em 170 milhões de euros.
Helder Bataglia, presidente da Escom – garante: «Não somos testas-de-ferro da China»
xatoo: China`s Portuguese Conection
as riquezas das terras de portugal do ultramar estao entregues a meia duzia de individuos...
historias dos grandes tachistas do grande centrao parte primeira:
Entre los inversores se destacaban el portugués Helder Bataglia, directivo del Banco Espirito Santo (Escom), de Portugal; el camboyano Sam Pa, del holding China Beiya Escom; el angoleño Manuel Vicente, de la petrolera estatal de Angola, Sonangol, y Lo Fong Hung, de Hong Kong, que se presentó como una alta ejecutiva de China Constructions y de China Railway.
Wang sólo reconoce como firmas chinas a China Railway y a China Unicom. Aunque advirtió: ningún directivo de esas compañías vino por entonces a la Argentina. Jaime conoció a Bataglia por medio del presidente de la Cámara de Comercio Argentino Portuguesa, Jorge Do Amaral, dijo éste a LA NACION. Do Amaral sostiene dos cosas: las inversiones están en marcha, pero son a largo plazo; él representaba al banco portugués, pero entendió que todas esas empresas representaban a China.
Los proyectos de inversión se referían a ferrocarriles, hidrocarburos, vivienda, comunicaciones y telecomunicaciones. Un vocero de De Vido dijo que tras el anuncio se firmaron "algunos convenios" con esas empresas -no chinas-, aunque el Gobierno nunca los informó. Y prometió dar más precisiones.
Do Amaral confirmó a LA NACION que Jaime conoció a Bataglia en agosto de 2004 y que lo vinculó a Sam Pa y a Vicente. Entre todos ellos, anudaron la letra de cinco cartas de intención y de las inversiones multimillonarias. Se dijo entonces que cambiarían el eje de la economía nacional y de la política exterior. Pero nunca participaron de las negociaciones el ministro de Economía, Roberto Lavagna, ni el canciller Rafael Bielsa, ni sus asesores".
(ver fonte)
http://xatoo.blogspot.com/2006/11/ch...conection.html
historia dos grandes tachistas do grande centrao parte segunda
http://xatoo.blogspot.com/
http://www.silobreaker.com/banco-esp...anto-11_257713
Banco Espirito Santo Type: Company
Name: Banco Espirito Santo (Banco Espirito Santo SA)
Nationality: Cayman Islands " notem bem nacionalidade das ilhas caiman ja nem é portugues este banco !
Fact Sheet: Fact Sheet for Banco Espirito Santo SA
http://www.silobreaker.com/fact-shee...634220933157_4
Dernière modification par duarte1 ; 15/02/2010 à 13h58.
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